Here I am on October 27 and I've found it necessary to tighten my hair again; right at about 4 weeks since the last re-ti.  I have been using Rosemary and Fenugreek water almost daily until I noticed many chin hairs so I have cut back on the use of the fenugreek spray mixture.  Now I use it only a couple times a week.  I also have made an oil of the two. I have definitely noticed changes in my hair overall especially at the speed in which it is growing.  My nails are also the strongest that they have even been.  I will be very happy when I can go 6 weeks before needing a re-ti; maybe when my hair gets longer it will cover the new growth better and it won't bother me as much.